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What is your, let's just say, take on the status of the American church?

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So there are so many bold pastors like you and many others, but largely the church was not

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as active as they should have been to get President Trump back in the White House.

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Why is that? And please, Jack.

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Yeah, this is an amazing thing, Charlie, because we have been standing in this water in California

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fighting for our rights and for our freedoms as a church, understanding the biblical mandate

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given to the scriptures.

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given from the scriptures to us that, for example, Jeremiah 29.7, that we are to be very engaged and very much committed to the welfare of our community.

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And it's very clear from Proverbs 29.2 that when the righteous are empowered, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan.

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So we as a church,

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here in Southern California, we never did not have a Sunday where you couldn't sign up to

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register to vote. We informed people of every proposition of everything, and people used to

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laugh at us, Charlie. Churches laughed at us. Pastors said to me, you're wrong. You should preach

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the gospel. Yeah, we do that too. We can actually walk and chew gum at the same time. We can preach

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the gospel and be righteousness in the community at the same time. And Charlie, after 35 years,

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God has been honoring this position, and so other churches, not so many, but other churches

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have caught on.

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And it doesn't take many, remember Charlie, God doesn't move always with a big crowd.

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He takes those that are open and willing to follow him, and we're seeing a shift and we're

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delighted about that.

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But I am pleading right now for pastors to wake up.

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And to get yourself out there on the front line,

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stop hiding behind your congregation.

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Stop hiding behind your theology up until now

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might be very theoretical.

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How about putting it forward and doing it

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and then your flock will follow and you know what?

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Maybe more people will attend your church when they realize that you are a instrument of light and truth

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Pastors, I believe that God gave us a gift by giving us four more years of religious freedom

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We better not waste it. We need to speak up more than ever before. That's my word, Charlie

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What what what a great message Jack? I totally and completely agree as we should not look at this as just a reprieve

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Which of course it is from the heavens, but an opportunity for a harvest

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an opportunity to bring people to Jesus, Jack.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Listen, revisiting this comment.

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Well, Pastor Jack, you should just preach the gospel.

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We don't get involved.

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Wait a minute.

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If we preach the gospel and people get saved,

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what do we do with them after that?

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We're supposed to make disciples of all of them,

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Jesus said in Matthew 28.

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So preach the gospel is what we do.

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Give them the gospel.

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for God's soul of the world. He gave his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, right? He is the

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gospel. He forgives sins. He died on the cross for our sins. He rules again from the dead.

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What do you do after that, pastor? You are not an evangelist. Your primary calling, pastor,

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is to equip your church to do the job of righteousness.

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every day of the week. And so we must do this like never before. Charlie, we're gonna be calling

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a statewide California gathering where we are now going to do a very, very new and revised reach

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to pastors who have sat down. Because Charlie, I gotta leave you with this, man.

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So many pastors have reached out in the last few hours and said, Pastor Jack, I apologize.

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I see what you've been doing. I see what's been going on. And I want to be on the team. And I'm

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Jack, it's Team Jesus.

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Let's obey the Lord and let's just be righteous

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until we see Christ face to face.

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Let's go for it.

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Amen.

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Jack Kibbs, you're a great man.

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I really appreciate your mentorship.

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I was watching you actually live here in Washington, DC

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on a local TV channel.

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Jack, please unplug your website,

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Real Life with Jack Kibbs,

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your books, please, for our audience.

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Yeah, the real life network is available on any one of your apps 24 7365 very, very awesome content Christian content

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So that's real life network and then also this you can go to jackkibbs.com for everything else

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thousands and thousands of hours of teaching and then we're grateful that

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living in the days of deception is a book that has now become a national bestseller.

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It's just flying off the shelves. We're happy about that living in the days of deception.

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And it turns out to be extremely prescient for the moment that we're in right now today.

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God bless you Charlie. Thank you brother so much.

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Jack, you're wonderful. Thank you so much.